MELISSA PEREZ, HERE I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS WHAT DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE TO TAKE A SURVEY TO A PARTICULAR JOB BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER TAKEN A SURVEY BEFORE AND WHAT KINDS OF QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED? CAN ANYONE TELL ME PLEASE. I THINK THE WAL MART COMPANY USES THAT TYPE OF LANGUANGE LIKE ASSOCIATES INSTEAD OF EMPLOYEES AND GUEST INSTEAD OF COSTUMERS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SOUND MORE PROFESSIONAL IN THEIR ENVIROMENT.WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
I have taken job surveys a few times and mostly they are trick questions. Like "how many drugs have you taken in the past year?", "if a co-worker took your break and it's not their turn what would you do?" The problem with this is they give you an "A" "B" or "C" not a personal opinion. You can easily give the "right" answers in any of the questions. They also have a silly one like, "On a scale of 0-10(ten being the highest) how good are you?". As for the "terms" I often think it's funny because to me it seems like Wal-Mart is trying to make themselves prestigious for their cheap prices.
But I had a thought for the "Selling" question number four. Peter's told me that he doesn't agree that you can't help someone who doesn't to be helped. My thought is you can't tell an alcholic they ARE going to treatment because you want them to get better. They have to do it for themselves. It's not just human will, it's psychological too. So how can you not agree with that? -KKayL
When I applied for Best Buy online, they asked me if I'd ever sent a bomb in the mail. Lol! I wasn't offended by the question, it was too absurd and hilarious to be offensive. Then there were other questions like, was I was hiding out in the US after committing a crime in a foreign country, and what not.
As for the fluffy terminology "associates" ,"guests" or whatever else they say. I'm sure they have their reasons for employing such fluffy words, but I just think its absurd. If I walked into a store and an "associate" greeted me as a "guest" I think I'd just be weirded out. All I want to do in a store, is get what I came for and leave. When I go shopping in a store I don't set up camp, I don't haul my luggage with me through the isles, I don't check in to a department and I don't expect breakfast/lunch/dinner. I'm a customer, say it CUS-TO-MER, lol!
Concerning the language question, I think it somewhat raises the esteem of the customers by calling them "guests". I think it sorta makes them feel more welcome and invited so they will continue to shop there. And the company calls their employees "associates" so the employees feel like they are important and part of the corporation.
I can't help but notice how Ehrenreich's personality has dirasticly changed. For example, while she is working at Wal-Mart.. She talks about the shoppers as if the are oversized Wendys meals. I couldn't believe she stooped to that level. She begins to thinks she owns the 9-11 shift patrolling it with her shopping cart full of un-racked clothes. I found this sections of the book quite amusing as her state of mind changes and she gets into the gring of things. Any one else?
I have applied for several jobs and often times they have required personality surveys. Usually I answered the questions with answers as to what I would actually do in that certain senario, but there have been some questions that I answered because I knew what they were looking for. Most of the questions are common sense. I do not think they are meant to make a person feel bad. They are just simply questions that COULD take place at the certain place. It all comes down to job integrity. In a lot of jobs people become so comfortable with their surrounding that they begin to lose that integrity they intially started the job with. 15 minute breaks become 20 minute breaks.... and so on. So in the long run those personality surveys mean nothing.
I notices that Erenreich's attitude about how bad the work is changed when she moved from the dumpy motel with see through curtains to a cheaper, nicer motel . She says that she gets better at her job, much better than she thought she could when she first started (176). Im not sure what this says exactly, maybe that if your living conditions are better your attitude maybe better to. Her co-worker Melissa who had a working husband and used wal-mart for a second income seemed to have a better attitude about the job, until Erenriech made her realize how crappy it was at the end of the chapter.
You know, it's funny that karl brought up the point of not "setting up camp" and "hauling luggage...up and down the aisles," because that's precisely what I've done in the past... Some friends and I used to go to Wal-Mart in the early mornings (usually after drinking...don't worry, we had a DD) and would literally grab luggage off the shelves, and pretend like we were moving in to the outdoors section. We would set up lawn chairs, put on store glasses, and just bullshit for hours on end. Granted, it's a little off topic, but I just felt the need to share an interesting Wal-Mart story with you all. That is all.
when i got hired at michaels they had me take a test and its called the oryon test. alot of the questions sounded alot the same but what i found iteresting is that they had an answer sheet and you had to get at least a 94 in oreder to pass. and there was 125 questions and once you got to the end you get tired. at work we have to call eachother associates and not empoyees and the customers are called guest. thats what i dont like about work but other then that i love working there.
I have applied to many jobs and most of them had a survey in the application process. The questions are always something like "would you tell on someone if they broke something while on the job?" or "have you ever stolen anything?" The survey is filled with trick questions that try to make one admit that they are a bad person. I always answer the questions the way the employer would want me to answer them. You can clearly tell which one is the "right" answer. I would answer the way the wanted me not, but not follow them in certain situations. Like if a co-worker messed up somehow and could get fired I would try and help them out and not just rat them out, like you are suppose too.
What she expierences in the Wal Mart section is very common. I took a test to drive a bus in Tri-Cities, three and a half hours, to drive a bus? They were looking for consistency. The scenarios would change slighlty but a simmilar outcome. Would you let a old man get on without fair? Would you let a young lady, young child, your gramma? The good part was it was in film form, so you answered rapid fire. This is where I believe they were testing integrity. 180 of us and I was one of three choosen. That was great. What it boils down to is, How hungry are you?
Well let me tell you guys my own experience with job surveys. One time I was dispread in finding a job so I went to Wal-Mart to see if I could apply. It took me a very long time because it was done in a computer that the keys did not work properly. I was so pest off because it was done in the back of the store that many people pass by and see you while you are trying to finish with the job survey. To summaries, what I said. It Sucks doing job surveys.
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MELISSA PEREZ, HERE I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS WHAT DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE TO TAKE A SURVEY TO A PARTICULAR JOB BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER TAKEN A SURVEY BEFORE AND WHAT KINDS OF QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED? CAN ANYONE TELL ME PLEASE.
I THINK THE WAL MART COMPANY USES THAT TYPE OF LANGUANGE LIKE ASSOCIATES INSTEAD OF EMPLOYEES AND GUEST INSTEAD OF COSTUMERS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SOUND MORE PROFESSIONAL IN THEIR ENVIROMENT.WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
I have taken job surveys a few times and mostly they are trick questions. Like "how many drugs have you taken in the past year?", "if a co-worker took your break and it's not their turn what would you do?" The problem with this is they give you an "A" "B" or "C" not a personal opinion. You can easily give the "right" answers in any of the questions. They also have a silly one like, "On a scale of 0-10(ten being the highest) how good are you?". As for the "terms" I often think it's funny because to me it seems like Wal-Mart is trying to make themselves prestigious for their cheap prices.
But I had a thought for the "Selling" question number four. Peter's told me that he doesn't agree that you can't help someone who doesn't to be helped. My thought is you can't tell an alcholic they ARE going to treatment because you want them to get better. They have to do it for themselves. It's not just human will, it's psychological too. So how can you not agree with that?
-KKayL
When I applied for Best Buy online, they asked me if I'd ever sent a bomb in the mail. Lol! I wasn't offended by the question, it was too absurd and hilarious to be offensive. Then there were other questions like, was I was hiding out in the US after committing a crime in a foreign country, and what not.
As for the fluffy terminology "associates" ,"guests" or whatever else they say. I'm sure they have their reasons for employing such fluffy words, but I just think its absurd. If I walked into a store and an "associate" greeted me as a "guest" I think I'd just be weirded out. All I want to do in a store, is get what I came for and leave. When I go shopping in a store I don't set up camp, I don't haul my luggage with me through the isles, I don't check in to a department and I don't expect breakfast/lunch/dinner. I'm a customer, say it CUS-TO-MER, lol!
Concerning the language question, I think it somewhat raises the esteem of the customers by calling them "guests". I think it sorta makes them feel more welcome and invited so they will continue to shop there.
And the company calls their employees "associates" so the employees feel like they are important and part of the corporation.
I can't help but notice how Ehrenreich's personality has dirasticly changed. For example, while she is working at Wal-Mart.. She talks about the shoppers as if the are oversized Wendys meals. I couldn't believe she stooped to that level. She begins to thinks she owns the 9-11 shift patrolling it with her shopping cart full of un-racked clothes. I found this sections of the book quite amusing as her state of mind changes and she gets into the gring of things. Any one else?
I have applied for several jobs and often times they have required personality surveys. Usually I answered the questions with answers as to what I would actually do in that certain senario, but there have been some questions that I answered because I knew what they were looking for. Most of the questions are common sense. I do not think they are meant to make a person feel bad. They are just simply questions that COULD take place at the certain place. It all comes down to job integrity. In a lot of jobs people become so comfortable with their surrounding that they begin to lose that integrity they intially started the job with. 15 minute breaks become 20 minute breaks.... and so on. So in the long run those personality surveys mean nothing.
I notices that Erenreich's attitude about how bad the work is changed when she moved from the dumpy motel with see through curtains to a cheaper, nicer motel . She says that she gets better at her job, much better than she thought she could when she first started (176). Im not sure what this says exactly, maybe that if your living conditions are better your attitude maybe better to. Her co-worker Melissa who had a working husband and used wal-mart for a second income seemed to have a better attitude about the job, until Erenriech made her realize how crappy it was at the end of the chapter.
You know, it's funny that karl brought up the point of not "setting up camp" and "hauling luggage...up and down the aisles," because that's precisely what I've done in the past...
Some friends and I used to go to Wal-Mart in the early mornings (usually after drinking...don't worry, we had a DD) and would literally grab luggage off the shelves, and pretend like we were moving in to the outdoors section. We would set up lawn chairs, put on store glasses, and just bullshit for hours on end.
Granted, it's a little off topic, but I just felt the need to share an interesting Wal-Mart story with you all.
That is all.
when i got hired at michaels they had me take a test and its called the oryon test. alot of the questions sounded alot the same but what i found iteresting is that they had an answer sheet and you had to get at least a 94 in oreder to pass. and there was 125 questions and once you got to the end you get tired. at work we have to call eachother associates and not empoyees and the customers are called guest. thats what i dont like about work but other then that i love working there.
I have applied to many jobs and most of them had a survey in the application process. The questions are always something like "would you tell on someone if they broke something while on the job?" or "have you ever stolen anything?" The survey is filled with trick questions that try to make one admit that they are a bad person. I always answer the questions the way the employer would want me to answer them. You can clearly tell which one is the "right" answer. I would answer the way the wanted me not, but not follow them in certain situations. Like if a co-worker messed up somehow and could get fired I would try and help them out and not just rat them out, like you are suppose too.
What she expierences in the Wal Mart section is very common. I took a test to drive a bus in Tri-Cities, three and a half hours, to drive a bus? They were looking for consistency. The scenarios would change slighlty but a simmilar outcome. Would you let a old man get on without fair? Would you let a young lady, young child, your gramma? The good part was it was in film form, so you answered rapid fire. This is where I believe they were testing integrity. 180 of us and I was one of three choosen. That was great. What it boils down to is, How hungry are you?
Well let me tell you guys my own experience with job surveys. One time I was dispread in finding a job so I went to Wal-Mart to see if I could apply. It took me a very long time because it was done in a computer that the keys did not work properly. I was so pest off because it was done in the back of the store that many people pass by and see you while you are trying to finish with the job survey. To summaries, what I said. It Sucks doing job surveys.
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